Obviously Dana wants to help, he paid Cain’s bail. Trump is Dana’s close friend so perhaps Dana can get in his ear. Many people would have done something similar in Cain’s circumstances.
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What Cain did was retarded.
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When a child is being molested revenge is not always measured or even rational.
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I don’t care about the guy he was after. He put innocent lives in danger unnecessarily. That’s a paddlin’!
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Trump can only pardon folks convicted of federal charges. Pretty sure newsome has to do it.
Valid point raised about the bystanders. I think Cain was, as I said, not acting rationally due to understandable anger.
I have been in his position and still managed to act with self control. There is no excuse for taking justice into your own hands. It’s always a choice.
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I think he would have been acquitted or the charges reduced in many areas of the country. Actual killers get less punishment sometimes it seems while others serve long terms for lesser offenses. Our justice system is far from perfect, but better than other countries. I am sorry you have been in a similar situation, I can’t imagine how you managed to control yourself.
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He froze himself for 30 days to cool off
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I froze you and removed your ass bloods tag. It didn’t help.
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I’m not for pardoning anyone who is guilty and fairly sentenced but I would definitely pardon Cain over Diddy for sure.
I think all presidents need to cool it with the Pardons and focus on improving the judicial system by adding checks and balances like having judges Judged by their peers every few years and if bias is shown then they are removed from the bench. Judges shouldn’t be allowed to interpret laws the way they want, and laws should be written in the most direct way possible leaving no room to reimagine the definition. If this is done then evidence will dictate judgements leaving no reason for a pardon to be issued.
With that said, Cain snapped due to a poor justice system and I would have too, granted not in broad daylight, not with direct witnesses and especially no survivors. As much as I like Cain he clearly broke the law in a very visible way and put more people at risk than just his target so he shouldn’t be given a full pass, his sentence was fair for the circumstances imo, his earliest release date is March 2026. Now the sons predator is another story and he should have never been out in the first place, looks like Cain was sentenced before the predator even goes to trial. Cain would be home raising his kids if justice worked correctly dealing with that situation, the guy should have been locked up until his trial and time served applied during sentencing like Cain.
Trump shouldn’t be using his pardon power to let celebrities off, he should focus on regular people where judges unfairly tried making an example out of someone, or judgements where judges have proven their bias to one side or the other.
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Yea. I am not saying I don’t understand his actions or feelings.
There are safer ways to handle things. But you have to expect to pay for your actions.
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This is much of what is wrong with our country right now. People and especially “urban youfs” and gang members break laws with impunity because there are little of no consequences for their actions. Things that would have resulted in a lengthy jail term a decade or two ago now are resolved with a plea deal for community service and credit for time served. Locally, we had a tragic accident a few months back where an intoxicated driver going the wrong way on the interstate snuffed out the lives of two high school kids ready to graduate and start a life together. The drunk driver had been arrested for DUI ELEVEN times and had hit three other cars in the process! She was driving with a suspended license. Stealing is fine as long as the value of your ill gotten gains is under a certain threshold. In some places one can’t buy toothpaste without having a clerk unlock the case. The whole “dindu nuthin’” culture is tearing our country apart. I will not even comment on the inane “defund the police” movement or the canonization of George Floyd.
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Basically he should have planned and executed with more strategy and control. Shooting from a moving vehicle at a moving vehicle in broad daylight is only asking for horrible outcomes. Hopefully they do not continue to drop the ball on the predator because when Cain gets out he may do better on round 2.
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I think we can all understand how Cain was feeling but what he did was stupid and deserves to be punished. How many innocent children did he endanger when he did that? He had so many options for taking the law into his own hands, if that’s what he wanted to do. Reminds me of the abused woman cases where she plots his murder for years then tortures him for prolonged periods, executes him, then abused the body. Sometimes the husband was a monster and she wasn’t in her right mind…in other cases, he just didn’t buy her the shoes she wanted and she was an actual psychopath. All that is to say, the fact that he was seeking justice for an innocent victim (which is just) doesn’t give him the right to do what he did.
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His behaviour was indefensible and he deserved punishment for it. Vigilantism is the enemy of law and order and only encourages others to do the same if it goes unpunished.
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This is how you do it: -
There is a time and a place for everything, in this case the time was after the trial and the place was far more secluded. I believe vigilante justice is wrong when the trial hasn’t happened but if and when the perpetrator walks then something has to happen. The extent as to what depends on the severity of the crime. Cain should have waited it out until after sentencing then he could have possibly avoided all this.
But I do agree people having to take “justice” in their own hands can get messy so the courts need to act swift and consistent.
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Agreed 100%.
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